We did the first interview ever for Typeradio in 2004 with graphic designer Stefan Sagmeister. Now five years later we look back and ask him what changed in those last couple of years. Did he acquire new rituals in the meantime? We talk about his second sabbatical year in Bali. And just six weeks after coming back to New York, we discuss the impact of the crisis and elections in the United States. He talks to us about if whether he likes the fame, how to handle it and the advantages along with it. We also look forward and talk about future projects and how he’s not quite sure yet if he would like to be remembered… Recorded at the Integrated 2009 conference in Antwerp, Belgium.