Tristan Harris interviewed on Kara Swisher podcast Recode Decode - Vox

Harris, previously best known for his association with the Time Well Spent movement, says tech is "downgrading" humanity — but we can fix it.

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/6/18530860/tristan-harris-human-downgrading-time-well-spent-kara-swisher-recode-decode-podcast-interview