75 We Used to Finger Each Other

Special guest star Brent Simmons joins John Gruber to talk about the past and future of Apple programming languages, how to make coffee and popcorn (albeit not together), whether links should be underlined on web pages, and Brent’s new podcast (co-hosted by Chris Parrish), The Record.

Original video: https://soundcloud.com/thetalkshow/75-we-used-to-finger-each
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