#156: Modern WordPress using Bedrock and Sage with Ben Word and Scott Walkinshaw - The Changelog

Our guests this week are Ben Word and Scott Walkinshaw. Ben and Scott run Roots, a team of folks who help you build better WordPress sites faster with Bedrock and Sage.

Download: MP3 Audio

In this episode we talk about a more modern WordPress stack, Bedrock and Sage, dependency management, WordPress deployment, smarter development setup with tools like Ansible and Vagrant, and so much more.

If you’re someone who wants to use WordPress in more modern ways, this show is for you.

“I think we’re all on the same page when it comes to WordPress. WordPress is a lemon, but the industry likes WordPress, so let’s make lemonade.” – 1:00:57

This episode is sponsored by

Codeship – Get started for free, or use the code THECHANGELOGPODCAST to get 20% off ANY plan for 3 months

Toptal – Freelance as an elite engineer with Toptal

Code School – Put the books away and learn to code by doing!

Show notes and links

Ben Word (@retlehs) on Twitter

Ben Word (@retlehs) on GitHub

Scott Walkinshaw (@swalkinshaw) on Twitter

Scott Walkinshaw (@swalkinshaw) on GitHub

Roots – Modern WordPress Development

Sage – WordPress Starter Theme


Bedrock – Modern WordPress Stack


Composer – Dependency Manager for PHP

Blueprint CSS (super old, but it’s where things began)



[Screencast] Using Composer With WordPress

Screencasts from Roots

#142: Laravel PHP Framework with Taylor Otwell

Ansible – DevOps made simple

Vagrant – Create and configure lightweight, reproducible, and portable development environments


BrowserSync – Time-saving synchronised browser testing

Have comments? Send a tweet to @Changelog on Twitter.Subscribe to Changelog Weekly – our weekly email covering everything that hits our open source radar.