Welcome to Crybabies with Sarah Thyre and Susan Orlean. A show about celebrating all the things that make us cry. Sarah and Susan’s Cry of the Week choices lead them to talk about how they know each other, The Tale of Despereaux, Lou Rawls’ “Pure Imagination,” The Bangles’ “Eternal Flame,” and immersing yourself in heart break. Then, they are joined by actor, screenwriter, director, comedian Christopher Guest to chat about what makes him cry, having to cry on cue in a film, and the forever evolving crying triggers in It’s A Wonderful Life. Finally, Sarah and Susan discuss Pixar’s Up as they go through some Twitter submitted crying cues.
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Hi! Our guest this week SETH ROGEN this week, who is famous and funny and extremely kind. We are happy to host him and talk to Seth about his first staff job on ALI G, whether it was weird in retrospect hanging out with Judd Apatow when he was a teenager, what it’s like when his friends forget they met his wife, and why "ordinary dudes in crazy situations" is his and Evan Goldberg’s bread and butter.Also, Julie sincerely wishes you a Happy Carvel Free Cone Day (belated), speculates on what Paul Simon & Edie Brickell were fighting about, wonders out loud why she watched a four-hour long documentary about the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, sniffs her nose at Almost Famous, lauds the Devil, shuts down a straight guy’s idea of Hell, and imitates Kevin Kline in "I Love You To Death" for 10 seconds. A wonderful show!
Greg Knauss is an independent software developer who created Romantimatic, a reminder program for absent-minded sweethearts. You may know him from the early 2000s: from Suck.com and Metababy and Rainy Day Fun and Games for Toddler and Total Bastard, a collection of stories he promoted on what was arguably the first digital book tour. Then for a decade he toiled behind the scenes until he went out on his own. We’ll talk today about his expectations, the reality, and fear of failing—and of succeeding!
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Things we mention in this episode:
Greg and I are both so old we remember seeing the launch of Mosaic (in different forms), the very first widely distributed graphical-user interface Web browser. Marc Andreessen and his colleagues at NCSA didn’t invent the Web, but they made it accessible.
Ted Nelson gets credit for creating the notion of hypertext, which he always envisioned as two-way links! The original Netscape browser let you edit pages directly. Everpix (the site that I couldn’t recall) had to shut down, despite being beloved, because the revenue didn’t match up with the cost of providing service.
Kevin Kelly and I discussed 1,000 true fans, distributed collaboration, and his book Cool Tools last week. Greg’s essay, "Talking about Failure," covers some of the ground we discuss in this episode. Cabel Sasser’s talk about coping with panic at his firm, Panic, when things started heading a direction he didn’t want to walk down—and how he got through it. Also watch Christina Xu and Jack Conte talk about similar pressures and outcomes.
A lot of interesting thoughts came out of XOXO 2013. Frank Chimero wrote of "The Inferno of Independence." Leah Reich discussed the value of critique in "The Uncanny Valley of Earnestness."
Romantimatic was given a hard time by Elle, but Mashable was much more fair. Greg was also interviewed by CBC about the app.
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